Taking lots of digital pictures in this process is not overkill, and professional mechanics often use digital cameras to do just this. It might not be the right decision for you though, and no one has ever gone wrong going to Marlin in my opinion. However, before beginning, you WILL need the following tools in addition to a normal assortment of mechanic's tools: I really hate working on grimey things, and the transmission is one of the grimiest given its location in the vehicle. Automatic transmissions. He has had people request new synchros, and almost always gets complaints when he puts them in, until they break in. The picture shows the difference in the engagement teeth profiles. There are mysteries in life that hold my fascination. This is not something you want to find out after you install the tranny! Take it apart and clean it thoroughly! Unfortunately, however, like all mechanical things, transmissions eventually wear out and untimately fail to act as efficiently as they were designed to. Where does that dang thing GO? Ah, I get it; engage several gears at once by locking two or all three of the shift hubs. Tubing or pipe of 1 1/4" I.D., 4" long, to drive on the rear bearing. Marlin said so too, but he might replace them in a high mileage vehicle and it couldn't hurt. Timing gear puller and 8mm/1.25 pitch x 90mm bolts for removing the 5th gear spline piece. Aisin automatic transmissions are manufactured by Aisin Seiki and Aisin AW, formerly known as Aisin-Warner, and which was established in 1969 as a joint venture between Aisin Seiki and BorgWarner.The joint venture terminated in 1987. Do you have or do you know of some good instructions on how to do this? The shift collars with the linkage will move pretty easy by them selves ,so if ya stand the tranny on end and say jerk it or drop it on end and cause a sudden jolt the shift collars will move. I had some ¼" plate and angle steel sitting around, so I cut two pieces of angle about 16" long and welded them to the plate just far enough apart to clear the gears. 4th gear is fine. don't do it. Thread starter Felsy_89; Start date Sep 13, 2009 Felsy_89 Member. Tranny is probably trying to be in two gears at the same time. Why buy Genuine Toyota? Redline MT-90 GL4 synthetic transmission oil really helps with synchro engagement, and when you disassemble the tranny you will see why. I had some choice descriptors for the last fella who graced this gearbox. Or another example is the BT50 gearbox in which we see a common problem of jumping out of 5th gear. Standard Transmission Rebuild Kits and Parts for Toyota R150, R151. Why? Obviously cleaning all parts is critical. Now is when your working of the mechanism earlier might pay off. Contact information is provided at the end of this article. My curiosity quenched, I left the seals in, per the master's advice. Two- and three-arm gear puller. Third and fourth are a breeze though, from the very first shift. Land Cruiser II, Land Cruiser Prado and Hilux Surf (1989-1993) 2L-T series and 1KZ series Turbo Diesel, V6 3VZE and 5VZ-FE ] (also Japan, UK and Europe 1KZ/TE 4Runners, 93-95) Ratios: I use a Home Depot rotating and pivoting vise, which is one of my favorite tools. | Toyota Section | Toyota Tech | Toyota Maintenance |, By: Bill Morgan - March 2004 revised February 2008. Large bearing separator. A few days later? Accurate vernier calipers for measuring clearances. Roll back the dark clouds of ignorance, here I come! Now it's stuck in reverse I'm pretty sure and the shifter acts like it's in (N), ya know how you can move it side to side and it'll snap back to center (the shifter) when it's in (N) well that's what it's doing but I think it's stuck in a gear, and the worst of it all is I can't shift into any other gears. Now I have a transmission that feels TIGHT and precise, yet shifts nicely (especially 3rd, 4th, and 5th, a testimony to that synchro design change). Is it very hard? I am not sure if any of you have seen the thread on the Land Cruiser Club website where a number of people have raised the issue of problems with the R151F transmission that the 1HZ Cruisers come out with. Ratios: First Gear: 3.250:1 Chances are, your C clips have too much play, and here you get to make a choice: Though Marlin can get you C clips if you need them, he is not really set up to do this and can't afford that kind of time. Simple press jig with the bearing separator made life easy. The overtravel and binding damaged the reverse teeth on the shift hub, the reverse idler gear, and the shift fork. Ouch. Besides, my W56, though still serviceable, was going to need an overhaul before long, so why put money into a dead end? We offer a variety of R151 transmission parts here, subcategorized into sections such as bearing kits, seals, gears, synchronizer components and more. They didn't keep all the muck out! Be sure to observe how the clutch release arm is connected to the throw out bearing and pivot, you will need to reassemble it properly. Ratios: First Gear: 4.313:1 Second Gear: 2.330:1 Third Gear: 1.436:1 Fourth Gear: 1.00:1 Fifth Gear: 0.838:1 R154 This is a robust 5-speed transmission found in the MKIII Supra Turbo and Toyota Soarer (turbo) up to 2001. Don't overdo this or you will shorten the synchros lifespan � but doing it lightly truly works. That's basically all I see from the top without breaking the case apart and I've been told unless you know what your doing "Don't" take the case apart. This chipped the tips of the shift hub teeth and burred the reverse idler. A like-new transmission, and I did it myself; it doesn't get a lot better than that. After you make sure everything works as designed, you are ready to put the front and rear cases back on. My first thought when I opened the cases was, "Gee, that was not bad at all". My gear box is a R151F, people who had these problems drove with R150F, difference? Not only that, once the shift hub hit the reverse idler, it had gone too far and was VERY difficult to return to neutral. Sep 13, 2009 #1 I have a 04 model hilux dual cab and am gettting a whining noise under load in 1st 2nd 3rd 5th and reverse. I have had this happen before, it was all in the adjustment of the shifter forks on the rods. This is their 'OEM' brand, part number 27009, which replaces SST 09213-31021 in the manual. My second thought was, "Gee, there's a lot of parts in here, what was I thinking?" Clean out all crevices, grooves, and lands. And the knowledge and troubleshooting skills gained? While on synchros, I might mention that Aisin had a design change on the 3rd, 4th, and 5th gear synchros (the smaller ones). I wondered about the phrase in the FSM: "Engage the gear double meshing." Sold individually, one fork is required per transmission. NOTE: Toyota V6 VZN130 - This kit will move the engine forward. Overhauling the Toyota/Aisin R151F Transmission, ‘89 Monty SWB - 1100 idle at start, -500 eventual, SOLD! Marlin's machined retainer, versus the stamped OEM unit. Make sure they are square to the housing, and installed exactly like the FSM details. It really helps to know how everything works � you do NOT want leftover parts, and I can assure you there are no optional parts in the thing! The inside of the synchros have ridges which displace oil and allow brass-to-steel contact. I could engage one or the other, but as soon as I did I was there forever. I won't go into the gyrations of converting from a W56 to an R151 transmission, but I do need to answer your question: how did it turn out? I bought the R151, and brought it to its new home. Sounds like a similar problem I had when I got a reco one, stuck in gear even though gear lever was in neutral. Second too! You don't want unnecessary mystery at this point! I use Toyota part number 90341-18021, which should be about $2 at your dealer. That was worth saving in the neighborhood of $150 for a new No.1 shift hub! A complete transmission overhaul kit can be obtained from Marlin Crawler. Common gearbox problems and diagnosis. Use a little bit of valve lapping compound and LIGHTLY turn the synchros against their mating cones to break any glaze and to remove ONLY the high points on the inside of the synchros. But if you are like me, you find one of the great things about four wheeling in general is the opportunity to roll back the dark clouds of mystery and, one of the most mysterious things about how my truck works, at least to me, has been the transmission. Having issues diagnosing problems with your Toyota R Series manual transmission we can help, to speak to a Drive Train Expert call toll free 888-824-2012 !. Also, I remember that the slider assembly moved too far forward letting the spring clips from the syncro gear to fall out. Marlin does not always replace the synchros, but does 'remanufacture' them (and the details of this process remain shrouded in the clouds of mystery � hey, he's gotta keep SOME things secret!). My curiosity would not settle for "just because, now shut up and get to work". spec'ed out in the FSM, and I thought I was gonna break something. R150F. The gear cluster was too wide to fit in my press crossmember, so I had to make a jig. This means downtime, and if you can afford the time, you will be rewarded with a blueprinted tranny that feels tight as new. This protects the sealing surfaces of the intermediate plate while allowing the vise to solidly grip the assembly, which is pretty heavy. These can also be had fairly inexpensively from Harbor Freight. He tried it. Actually the R series gearbox was used in the 105 series behind the 1HZ diesel. Another question came up: what are sealed bearings doing in an oil bath? That's why it stays a mystery. Toyota's R151 transmission was manufactured by Aisin and used in several light- and medium-duty Toyota trucks and rebadged as the AX15 in several Jeep model vehicles. Large vise. New 1990-1995 Toyota 4Runner 4Dr Carpet, http://www.4x4wire.com/toyota/tech/r151f/. Not all of the bearings are sealed, just the input and center bearings. Small drifts, for the split pins on the shift rails. Gently, lightly lap the synchro with its mating cone. Just enough is just right. As you clean up the old parts, work on one baggie at a time, and don't assume you will recognize the parts come reassembly time; you won't. Ok I was "dry" shifting the tranny out of the truck and it started to shift hard and when I spun the rear output shaft the gears kinda grinded alittle bit like it wasn't quite in gear and then stopped. Yep, I found the home for the missing ball, it was in the interlock stack and doubled as a 5th/reverse shift rail lock to the actuator. Come join the discussion about trail reports, builds, performance, modifications, classifieds, troubleshooting, fabrication, drivetrain, and more! Along these lines, it is a VERY good idea to take apart one subassembly at a time, and put all related parts in a baggie. Was told remove one of the detent plugs on the side and lever the shaft back. Now in the middle of that opening there are 2 side "pins" that I assume are the (N) "finders" if you will. Therefore, there will be at least a one week lead time on all orders placed. Gearbox problems in my hilux. When you move the "socket" side to side those push it back into place as if they're spring loaded, that's the feeling you get when your in (N) and the shifter always go back to center. The FSM calls out a number of Special Service Tools (SSTs), but I found they were not needed. Seems that Toyota changed the main shaft from a 1 piece to a 2 part shaft which gives problems. The limit clips were missing for 1st gear engagement, which allowed an overtravel condition, sending the 1st/2nd shift hub into the reverse idler gear. What do you in ZA know about this? Jump to Latest Follow 1 - 7 of 7 Posts. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. The old synchro, with the bright new one. If you lost the 2 gears suddenly, it's possibly a trans problem. A 4WD transmission found in many Toyota trucks. Taking the transmission apart was pretty straightforward. I use a medium sized generic configurable one from NAPA. Remember, when using the orange FIPG the same amount oozes on the inside as oozes on the outside, use only enough to seal. The gearbox of this 79 series is making a noise in all gears and Page 10/26. One other optional thing; I have no use for the hex-head fill and drain bolts, they round off far too easily. Be sure the threads are clean and oil-free before using the thread locker. While you are at it, be sure to replace the hard rubber shifter seat and nylon shift tip locator (bushing). Marlin also sells an intermediate bearing retainer that is much stouter than the stock Aisin stamped piece, which also ensures minimum slop. It's worth the price of new synchros to get this change. This is our new 3rd-4th gear high strength 7075-T6 billet aluminum R-series transmission shift fork! The bell housing bolts were overtorqued, so I needed my teenage son as ballast to be able to unbolt the bell housing. You do NOT want to remove the interior ridges on the synchros; they are critical for operation. One thing that may be responsible for this slow improvement instead of instant performance was my use of BG assembly lube, which takes a while to wash away. Well, that's why I am writing this article, to be of some help. Part of this is controlled by the C clips that hold the pressed-on shift hubs, bearings, and 5th gear in place, and part of this is the synchro ring clearance and synchro wear. After hearing my description of the problem, and seeing a picture of it, Marlin felt that dressing the shift hub reverse gear teeth ends with a die grinder or similar would be just fine. This is probably the most important tool. Now you get to say "thanks!" But for the cost of the seat and cup, it's a cheap and easy way to find out. R ... Anyways here's the break down, the 5th gear is heavy enough to "fall" and knock the tranny into reverse, with that the shifter is still in the (N) position therefor your not able to shift out of (R). Brian Cobain and Joe Risavi (good mechanics and very competent 4x4ers at Burt Toyota, Englewood, CO) confirmed they are almost never needed (unless the tranny is run out of oil, in which case you have far bigger problems). Yes in theory, the R452 is weaker, however, the input teeth are .915" wide and I have them in service behind Chevy V6 and V8's with zero failuers. Ok update everyone: I called and spoke to. Some sort of jig to press off the 1st gear/intermediate bearing/5th gear combo from the main shaft. A forum community dedicated to custom off-road vehicle owners and enthusiasts. 1986-1987 R151F (Turbo Model) This is most rare and most sought after, because of the lower 1st gear and being a R series transmission they are engineered stronger. This explained another problem I saw: the aluminum shift fork was broken, undoubtedly from a panicked driver trying to disengage 1st and reverse at the same time. No worries, reduce heart rate, something just needed to seat. So should I have had Marlin do it, or did I save a bundle? What could have possibly gone wrong with the tranny? Acces PDF Rare Toyota R151f Trans Gearbox Transmission Dial indicator with magnetic base for checking shaft runout- I use an inexpensive Harbor Freight unit and am satisfied with it. Three good shots of the R151F transmission: driver's side, front view, and passenger side. I could afford the downtime, so I went whole hog and ordered and replaced the C clips as needed. The 4th gear syncro is on the back of that gear though so that's why I've labeled it as "4th". Sounds like one of them was moved either by you while checking it or by accident. They came back looking brand new. Commodore 3.8 V6 engine conversion to suit Toyota R150 & R151 5-speed manual gearbox: 4Runner Bundera Hilux Surf Commodore VN, VP, VR, VS & VT - V6 engines NOTE: This kit is designed for the 160mm input shaft R150F, R151F gear boxes. Put 500 miles on it, change the oil with fresh MT-90, and forget it for 30,000 miles. Aisin designed this transmission to be easily serviced! Priceless. Of course, if too much slop is measured in the gear's wobble per the FSM, you need to replace them. Not good! Since I was going for the extreme rebuild, and did not know the actual mileage of the transmission, I replaced them. These are inexpensive and are likely a stocked part at your dealer, and will go a long way to ensuring crisp and positive shifts. Removing the 1st gear/intermediate bearing/5th gear presented a slight problem. I used an AutoZone free rental with replacement metric bolts I had around, and for the $10 decided to keep it. VerticalScope Inc., 111 Peter Street, Suite 901, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada. It's your decision to make. Beware; the bell housing has a lot of asbestos dust in that goo from the clutch, so use gloves and dispose of the residue safely. and even coated them with clearcoat (except the inside, and the sealing surfaces). Not only that, there is a little less mystery in my life! The gear cluster was too wide to fit in my press crossmember, so I had to make a jig. 86 4Runner,22re,Auto,35"M/T,4:30 gears,rear locker,front welded ..love to weld. Have you heard it too? I did this and it worked very well. Huh. Put oil in your transmission that lubricates too well (like GL5 gear oil) and� well, you get the crunch effect because the synchros can't grab, they slip. And if I never actually do the V6 conversion, an R151 will be a definite improvement with its lower first gear and stronger design. Marlin has been known to HAMMER tighter C clips in place, he makes sure they are that tight. Be sure to wash off any valve lapping compound with solvent and a toothbrush; it will instantly eat your bearings if you don't remove it completely. Gears are characteristically reliable mechanisms. Problem solved. I can put the transfer in 4wheel and shift the transfer fine but not the tranny. 1988-1995 R150F (3VZ-E) But the price was right, and if I am ever to fulfill my dream of swapping a V6 into my truck, I am going to need an R-series transmission! Should I remove the seals? There are only 3 gears in the R452 trans that are the same as the R151F, reverse idler, reverse 1/2 slider, and 1th speed gear. That mystery was about to become an area I understood much better when I located an R151F transmission from a 1986 turbo pickup. You want one, for C clips, and bearing snap rings. Use new aluminum sealing washers on the transmission. This kit will not suit the 190mm shaft gear boxes. 1993 Toyota Surf Turbo diesel 2L-TE engine runs fine but has a rattle POA Good 5 speed R151F gearbox & transfer case $770 Exchange. I used BG Pre-Lube assembly oil, on all parts, to ensure no dry operation. Keep it toyota, better yet, make it TURBO TOYOTA--------------------------. Be sure to lay out all parts in order of disassembly. Marlin figures the seals are not perfect seals and oil does get in, but the seals retain the oil in slow speeds (that's me!) A press. Anybody else out there that has had gearbox problems on the new Hilux? Toyota R150F & R151F Transmission Information. A call to Marlin about the chipped teeth answered some questions. You really need to order specific thickness clips from the dealer, who most likely does NOT stock them. But your gears are grinding and your bearings are whining? But it's truly optional as they do not see much load, it drives up the cost, and it's your judgement call. T-40 Torx wrench, to remove the Torx interlock caps. How does he know? I ordered one, and you might want to also, for $35 or so. Genuine Toyota 5 Speed Manual Gearbox R151F Hilux 2005-2015 33030-0K530 . Plus, the advantage of the R151 is the way it mates to a V6 like an R150, but also mates to the geared transfer case (as long as you use a 23 spline input shaft) like a W56, my current tranny. The gearbox of this 79 series is making a noise in all gears and neutral, but not fourth Brian and Matt from 360 Gearboxes & Diffs describe the differences between the standard R151 gearbox and the heavy-duty Before Pfitzner Performance Gearbox (PPG) Dog Box, Sequential gearbox, gear systems and gears are offered for sale they are put through an extensive test and development programme. The gear ratios are: 1st 4.529:1, 2nd 2.464:1, 3rd 1.49:1, 4th 1:1, 5th .881:1, reverse 4.313:1 ... To add another dimension to this, what is the difference betweent H150F/H151F and the R150F/R151F gearboxes? The rear output shaft sleeve (coupler) required using a two-arm puller and bolt stuffed inside the coupler to take up space, but came off easily. Much stronger, and tighter. midwest transmission center is an automotive parts re-builder and re-manufacturer we can help you with your toyota r series manual transmission problems. Were you careful to bag and mark all the parts like I told you? So let's roll back some dark clouds! Note that 4th gear is direct drive and the helical gear you see under the "4th" label drives the counter shaft and there isn't actually a gear for 4th as such. In addition to reconditioning the gearbox, the transfer case has also been reconditioned, with the added components of the " Marks 4WD Adaptors " part time conversion kit. Too much is not better, and can break off on the inside. 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